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I've known Benny Hinn much longer than people think, says Oritsejafor

Posted by JOHN NWOKOCHA on 2005/07/18 | Views: 630 |

I've known Benny Hinn much longer than people think, says Oritsejafor


YOU may never fully understand Papa Ayo Oritsejafor by watching him on television during his ministration programme alone, for he may represent the classic paradigm of the more you look the less you see. But get close to this super preacher, and you will observe humility in its pure sense.

YOU may never fully understand Papa Ayo Oritsejafor by watching him on television during his ministration programme alone, for he may represent the classic paradigm of the more you look the less you see. But get close to this super preacher, and you will observe humility in its pure sense. Not only this, you will also see suave, simplicity, eloquence in spiritual realm and confidence of a noble. These attributes combined, do make Pastor Oritsejafor to be outstanding among men of God, as they love to be addressed. What you will not fail to notice when meeting this athletic trimmed figure of a preacher is his youthful face. But for the grey patches in his hair, you'll almost come to a conclusion that he's in his 30s. You are damn wrong. He says: ‘I am in my mid 50s'.

The issue of age popped up in the course of our chat when the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria (PFN) president responded to a question on how he feels being addressed as Papa by his followers who're far older than him. It is not as if it's the key issue of our encounter. As a matter of fact, the controversy surrounding the Benny Hinn's crusade in Nigeria had occupied the front burner for a while, with many unanswered questions. And having met him only a day before the committee set up to investigate the allegations over the crusade, makes public its report, no other issue can be more pertinent. In addition to being PFN's president, Oritsejafor had some explanations to offer about the role he played in the crusade. He had maintained a dignified silence while the allegations burn in the furnace of public cross-fires. Will he break the golden silence now? Hear him:

"The truth is, I would love to say a lot of things. I've known Benny Hinn for long. We had agreed that nobody should get to the press until after the leadership of PFN has received the committee's report. That's the National Advisory Council and National Executive Council will make decisions known, hopefully based on whatever reports they receive.

So, hopefully at the end of the meeting either I or somebody else authorised by the council will speak to the press." For the clergy who holds strictly to his principles he buttresses his silence on the allegations, "it will be wrong because I'm the leader. So if you're part of an organisation and you're the leader, it is wrong to break the laws that you have put in place. Benny Hinn and I have personal relationships." Putting the Benny Hinn question aside, we moved on to other issues like one concerning the conduct of some clergymen that have drawn public condemnation. Among this is the growing trend of material lust while turning the affairs of evangelism into money spinning business. He says: "I am very much aware of this.

Well first of all, let me say again, I'm very uncomfortable with the word business or describing the ministry work as business. But in essence, if you read the gospel, there's a scripture where Jesus said I must be after My Father's business. So in that wide scope, if you look at it from this perspective then, the description fits in. But if you narrow it down to where you are coming from, that is where I have a problem. But like I said, it's our own fault. Some of us have not done right to the gospel. Some of us have not behaved the way we should. If I sit here as the leader of PFN and pretend that all is well as an organisation, if I tell you that everybody is behaving well then, I'm deceiving myself.

"My predecessors tried their best to correct some fo these things. But I'll promise you that by the grace of God, we will do our best.

Exercising authority

We will pray to God to help us correct these things. As far as we are concerned we should be able to say this is what we stand for. And if you are going to identify with what we identify with, then you must do it this way, you can't do it your own way. I'm sure you know that you can exercise authority over a man that submits to your authority.

But I'll tell you that this is not new. Because even in the scriptures, you'll see it again and again. It happened from time to time.

There will always be those who'll miss the track. That's why we are human beings. And when we missed the marks we must correct ourselves, make adjustments and come back to the right ways. But I can tell you that there are many men of God who are doing the right things. Of course, you know the case with one bad apple soils the whole basket. I think there is a fine line and God has to help us to identify the fine line."

Now, on the question of being addressed papa while his wife is called mama. This is his reaction: "First of all, I'm very much over 50. You probably don't know that. I don't talk about my age. But it has nothing to do with age actually, because the call of God has nothing to do with age. If you study the Bible, you'll find out that there is a family of three - Mariam, Aaron and Moses. Moses was the youngest, yet God chose him to lead. In fact, Mariam got so angry at a point and rebelled. She reasoned carnally. But Aaron referred to Moses as my lord.

"From the human standpoint, this would be stupid. But from the spiritual stand point it makes a lot of sense. Having said that, let me also clarify to you that at no time did I tell anybody to call me papa. I always address myself as Pastor Ayo. In fact, on my television programme, I just address myself as Ayo Oritsejafor. One of the problems we have in Africa and is a major problem is the craze for titles. We've gone crazy. And it's not just in the church, it is in the world. But it's worse in the church, because we're supposed to show good example.

"Our people are so obsessed with what you will call them. I'm not interested in titles. If you look at some of the great men around the world they don't go by special titles. One of the greatest preachers in our time that lived is Billy Graham. They call him Brother Graham. But I don't know of any preacher that has done one quarter of what he had done. As a pastor you're a shepherd, you feed the flock. As an elder you guide and guard the flock. It's the same person."

What challenges does he face as president of PFN? Hear him: "I'm sure you know that human beings are not easy to lead. For me challenges are not new. I started preaching since 33 years ago. So, I think I've a lot of experience. And I see a PFN that will take a rightful place in this nation, I believe that PFN is getting ready to move to another level. I also believe that as PFN moves to the next level, PFN will participate very strongly in moving Nigeria to the next level."

Asked the inspirational preacher if the PFN will boycott the

fast approaching national census over the contentions issue of exclusion of religion? "Definitely. If they don't include religion especially, Christian religion... There is religion in this country that claims everywhere that it's made of 70 per cent of the country's population. The census will help us know who's who. Any census in this country without religion lacks credibility."

In case you do not know, for Oritsejafor, those who have great influence on him include: late Archbishop Benson Idahosa, Dr. Morris Cerrulo, T.L. Osborn and R.W. Shamback, as he recalls with nostalgia their various influences in shaping his understanding of how to serve God, devoid of profiteering.

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